How musicians actually make this work.

How people build a life in music and keep it going. The money, the craft, the body and the head, told by people doing it.

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James Nisbet on saying yes first, and what you are actually paid for

Belinda Carlisle's guitarist on and off for thirty years, with Saint Etienne, Kylie, Lily Allen and Culture Club behind him. On a dad who worked Denmark Street, a whole Pink Floyd show learned in a fortnight, and why the gigs are the easy part.

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Between them, our guests have worked with

  • Bonnie Tyler
  • ABBA Voyage
  • Taylor Swift
  • Annie Lennox
  • Blondie
  • Lady Gaga
  • Lionel Richie
  • Kylie Minogue
  • A-ha
  • Joe Bonamassa
  • Nothing But Thieves
  • Rag’n’Bone Man
  • Imogen Heap
  • James Morrison
  • Blood Brothers
  • Young Voices
  • Mavis Staples
  • Gloria Gaynor
  • Devon Allman
  • Candi Staton
  • Jason Donovan
  • Boy George
  • Sophie Ellis-Bextor
  • Ariana Grande
  • Shania Twain
  • Quincy Jones
  • Ed Sheeran
  • Anastacia
  • Belinda Carlisle
  • Level 42
  • Marti Pellow
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The interviews

Filmed once, told straight. New conversations go up as they're finished, and we're not stopping at six.

Matt Prior playing guitar liveEP 01
Guitar · Songwriter/Composer · Producer

Matt Prior

Composer, producer, and the late Bonnie Tyler's guitarist from 1998, on a second career in sonic branding, and an unusually open account of anxiety and recovery.

Julian Emery in his studioEP 02
Guitar · Songwriter/Composer · Producer

Julian Emery

From session guitarist to hit songwriter and producer, on the move from player to writer, and how publishing money really works.

Alex Toff behind the drum kitEP 03
Drums

Alex Toff

Belinda Carlisle since 2004, ten years with the late Bonnie Tyler. On the hang, losing a long-running gig, and session work from a converted garage.

Matt Round playing bass liveEP 04
Bass

Matt Round

James Morrison's MD and the ABBA Voyage band, on playing behind an avatar and an arena show almost every day.

Carl Stanbridge playing bass liveEP 05
Bass

Carl Stanbridge

Thirty years of electric and double bass, from the Blood Brothers pit to arenas of ten thousand schoolchildren, on the many heads of a working bassist.

James Nisbet playing acoustic guitarEP 06
Guitar

James Nisbet

Session guitarist to the stars, from Belinda Carlisle and Kylie to a 7,000-seat Pink Floyd tribute, on saying yes and figuring it out.

Tim Oliver playing keyboards in his studioComing soon
Keyboards

Tim Oliver

Screen composer at the desk, session keyboardist on the road, from Lady Gaga to Tony Hadley, Glastonbury to the O2, on living two musical lives at once.

Photo: Erica Hawkins

Holly Petrie singing live on stage in front of an orchestraComing soon
Vocals

Holly Petrie

Session and live vocalist, arranger and studio co-owner, currently out with Anastacia, after Shania Twain in Vegas and Pete Tong at the O2, and a day job that runs all the way to Peppa Pig.

Nadie Keating, black and white studio portraitComing soon
Vocals

Nadie Keating

Session singer, vocal coach and BIMM lecturer, from Belinda Carlisle and Level 42 to the BBC Radio 2 Piano Room, on a working voice and teaching other people to find theirs.

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How to use this site

Four things worth knowing. All of them save you scrubbing through a long video to find the good bit.

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The bits that never make the socials.

Nobody tells you this at college. We sat down with musicians who are actually doing it, the vans, the sessions, the residencies, and asked them straight: what's it doing to your head, what's it doing to your body, and how do you handle money that never lands the same way twice.

One conversation, three cuts. The full thing if you want the whole story. Short clips by theme if you just want the bit about your bad back or your worse tax return. It's early days, a handful of interviews so far, more booked in. But that's the plan: enough of them to help musicians navigate this world, to help anyone thinking about it decide properly, and to show everyone else what the job is actually like.

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